The whole time the fooferah was running all I could thing of was this.
quote:Barna circa 2007 Interestingly, the study discovered a new image that has steadily grown in prominence over the last decade. Today, the most common perception is that present-day Christianity is "anti-homosexual." Overall, 91% of young non-Christians and 80% of young churchgoers say this phrase describes Christianity. As the research probed this perception, non-Christians and Christians explained that beyond their recognition that Christians oppose homosexuality, they believe that Christians show excessive contempt and unloving attitudes towards gays and lesbians. One of the most frequent criticisms of young Christians was that they believe the church has made homosexuality a "bigger sin" than anything else. Moreover, they claim that the church has not helped them apply the biblical teaching on homosexuality to their friendships with gays and lesbians.
Southworth is the former host and producer of The Remix, a once-popular Christian reality TV show, which was pulled from the airwaves back in 2008 after he came out. Jonathan Merritt is the son of Dr. James Merritt, former President of the Southern Baptist Convention.
quote:Originally posted by Hot Foot Steph: haha. oh man. this should be in the "vent" (aka "politics") forum.
If people want to boycott them that's their business, but when the politicians start attacking a company over the beliefs of the CEO then there is a problem. The company has no history of discriminating against anyone who eats there or wants to work there. The gay rights groups people have been out to get Chick-Fil-A for some time, so this was just an opportunity to attack them. The gay marriage issue is an assault on every organization that dares to say the Bible says this is wrong.
quote:If people want to boycott them that's their business, but when the politicians start attacking a company over the beliefs of the CEO then there is a problem.
Well, my understanding of Rahm Emmanuel's quote (the one I'm most familiar with) is that he said, literally, "Chick-Fil-A’s values are not Chicago’s values." He also clarified that he would not block Chick-Fil-A stores from opening in the Chicago area. This was based on the fact that Chick-Fil-A donated roughly nine million dollars to organizations and campaigns to restrict and/or limit basic civil rights in the US and other countries. His statements did not have the force of law, and they were based on the actions of the corporation itself, not the CEO.
Do you believe that it's inappropriate for Christian politicians to (say) speak out against the building of mosques or abortion clinics, if they make no moves to legally block the construction? I know there was a lot of back-and-forth about that a few years back regarding the "Ground Zero Mosque," and that was a case of attempting to legally block its construction.
quote:The company has no history of discriminating against anyone who eats there or wants to work there.
Well, there IS a lawsuit, but it's relatively small potateos. More compelling is the fact that Chick-Fil-A has donated millions of dollars to anti-gay organizations including hate groups that supported Uganda's plan to literally murder gay people in that country.
Whether those things have any legal impact in the United States is certainly debatable, but I would say that speaking out against Chick-Fil-A is no more "out of bounds" than Christians speaking out against AT&T for donating to Planned Parenthood.
quote: The gay marriage issue is an assault on every organization that dares to say the Bible says this is wrong.
Why? Anyone can say it's wrong all they want. Saying that something is morally wrong according to the Bible has nothing to do with whether it should be legal. Wicca, polyamory, divorce, and many other things are legal because the only case to be made against them is explicitly religious.
Does the legality of Wicca constitute an assault on anyone's right to say that the Bible is true?